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This is an E-mail that crazy lips sent to me that someone had sent to her.. I will post it below.

All of the writing in white is the original email, all  of the writing in red is from me…

Something to think about.
This should be good.

Only hope we find GOD again before it is too late ! !
I once found such a thing as god, only I found in the minds of a delusional people. In the hearts of an unrealistic ideal, and in the bodies of a illogical society.


The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS Sunday  Morning  Commentary.
This should be fun


My confession:
I guess I am a priest now hearing confessions.


I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish.  And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees, Christmas trees...  I don't feel threatened..  I don't feel discriminated against.. That's what they are, Christmas trees.

I am a mutt, mixed with Jewish, Irish, Russian, German, Native America, African  lineage… So you went on a long Jewish thing to say you have no issue that people calling an evergreen coniferous a Christmas tree. Good for you… But, they are trees mostly used for Christmas, their existence is not simply for that…


It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, 'Merry Christmas' to me.  I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto.  In fact, I kind of like it.  It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu ..  If people want a creche, it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away.

Okay, it does not bother me when people say Merry Christmas, yet some do it for spite. Unless I am just the only atheist that always get cards from people who know you are an atheist saying one day you will find the glory. Sure, if you want to say merry Christmas and move on…sure, yet when they try and make a conversion project out of it, then I do have issues.


I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians.  I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period.  I have no idea where the concept came from, that America is an explicitly atheist country.  I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like it being shoved down my throat.

I do not like getting pushed around for being an atheist. Yet that is what this email is about. Conversion, saying people should recognize god or somehow they are not equally in their patriotism or something to that extent.

I guess I forgot the part of any atheist saying we are an atheist nation, yet we are a SECULAR NATION, we are not to endorse nor denigrate any belief or lack there of.  You can’t find it in the constitution? The first Amendment? The establishment cause? Thomas Jefferson in the Danbury letter saying “I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.” .. yea I guess this you believe is a grand endorsement of a religious society.


Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship celebrities and we aren't allowed to worship God as we understand Him?  I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old, too.  But there are a lot of us who are wondering where these celebrities came from and where the America we knew went to.

Where the idea come from that we should only worship deities? Where is this absolute notion of faith in America comes from? There are a lot of us that do not want the America you knew back, you know, depending on how far back the America you knew is…was not so good for interracial couples, blacks, women, Japanese, children, workers…. So what is this nostalgic world that you wish for us to go back to?


In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different:  This is not intended to be a joke; it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.

You are correct, it is anything but a joke when religious institutions attempt to continuous intertwine and blur the lines of faith and law. Where ones beliefs are deemed more important than ones ideals.


Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her 'How could God let something like this happen?' (regarding Hurricane Katrina)..  Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response..  She said, 'I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.  And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.  How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?'

So if we had kept religion and government intertwined things like Hurricane Katrina would not have happen? If your god is so petty as to demand worship or start an onslaught of your comrades than that is a god that I am glad has devolved over time. If such a god is fit for worship than such a god should be fit for opponents. If such an idea is lost to the masses, and thus the punishment for the want of something better without mental enslavement is mass death than I suppose I can only think of a quote, “the price of freedom is death”. If freeing someone from their mental enslavement is what one will then use to ask reasons why such a thing happen, that further proves of your small mindedness of a delusional people. With their sky god of an immoral morality.


In light of recent events... terrorists attack, school shootings, etc..  I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK.  Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school.  The Bible says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself.  And we said OK.

OH REALLY!!! You blaming an atheist for RELIGIOUS fundamentalist bombing our schools for RELIGIOUS students shooting places up? Actually you did not say “Okay” in fact you said NO, and the case went all of the way to the supreme court when they upheld the constitution the AFTER SEVERAL PREVIOUS NO RULINGS, and took out prayer from schools.

The bible also says you can stone your mom, sell your daughter. Let us not pick and choose what part of the book you will read only to disregard the passages that will not support your empty idiotic rhetoric.


Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave, because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide).  We said an expert should know what he's talking about..  And we said okay..

Oh, yea, it is so god like to use a man’s son that killed himself and attempt to show that this his non spanking or not physically disciplining his child was the reason. Now, let us look at all of the kids who were spanked and killed themselves, should we blame their early discipline on the parents now?


Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

Oh yea, they do not know right from wrong because you stopped spanking them. Using that logic than kids that were physically abused should be the most mannered kids in the world. People have been killing since we made our evolutionary jump, for land, food, honor… so is the countless millions killed because of following the bible okay then?


Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.  I think it has a great deal to do with 'WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.'

I think it is a great deal to know it is because of such an intolerance of anything different that is the reason the children are the way they are. Atheist, or theist, if you raise your children to respect others they will grow up to respect people. What reason would an atheist have for hating gays? What would reason would an atheist have for wanting to kill someone for premarital sex? What reason would an atheist have for hating someone who believe something else? Shall we now go through the moral of the bibles where pretty much every social norm is a bad thing that can get one killed?

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell.  Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says.  Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing.  Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.

Funny how simple it is for people to trash others in the name of their god while continuously blaming the want for the laws to not be intertwined with such biblical bigotry. Funny how questioning has become a bad thing. Funny how you can send jokes through the email, while blaming atheist for religious fundamentalism What is more lewd, intolerant, bigoted, obscene than the bible? What is more unrealistic that such a boob of immoral morality is the number one selling book in the world… hm funny.

Hm, did I miss the memo that said you cannot talk about god in school? Or am I simply understanding the memo that says you cannot say THIS IS THE ONE AND TRUE god in public schools, and silence any differing opinions?


Are you laughing yet?

Yes.

Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it.

Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us.

I am sharing it in a public forum, whoever will look at it..will just see it. Funny how one thinks they know what others will do.

Pass it on if you think it has merit.
I am passing it on, for I think it shows why many atheist have issues with theist. You blame atheist and secular people for things like hurricane Katrina, you blame secular people for school shootings, for religious fundamentalism… do tell us, how you taking your belief to the extreme is our [atheist] fault?

If not, then just discard it... no one will know you did.  But, if you discard this thought process, don't sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in. 

I discard the thought process because it is the typical blame game, blame atheist, blame secularist, blame parents who did not spank their children, blame people for upholding the constitution of the modern day… when will you take responsibility for what you do?

My Best Regards,  Honestly and respectfully,
… not so honestly, since when was blaming everything on secularist for religious fundamentalist respectful?

Ben Stein

Emanon :P

Blame Crazy Lips for this....